Comments on: Are We Hillary’s Peeps? http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps Having an opinion never goes out of style. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:22:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: karrie http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1996 karrie Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:41:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1996 I'm personally hoping for a Clinton/Obama ticket. :) <br/><br/>David raises a great point about the level of personal attacks Hillary has endured. <br/><br/>Personally I think Hillary is the first female candidate who has ever had a chance in hell of winning her Party's nomination, let alone the Presidency. That is reason enough for me to support her, since she is "close enough" to my views on most of the major issues. <br/><br/>If Hillary wins the nomination, and especially if she is elected POTUS, I believe all women will benefit. Even if her policies end up being middle of the road, finally having a woman in the Oval Office should go a long way towards helping women in other industries succeed as leaders--esp. if she is a good President, which I truly believe she will be.<br/><br/>As for why more women do not support her, I agree with Clinton's record with regard to Iraq, but I also think many women--even relatively liberal ones--might harbor some less than feminist thoughts about a woman's ability to lead our nation. I’m personally hoping for a Clinton/Obama ticket. :)

David raises a great point about the level of personal attacks Hillary has endured.

Personally I think Hillary is the first female candidate who has ever had a chance in hell of winning her Party’s nomination, let alone the Presidency. That is reason enough for me to support her, since she is “close enough” to my views on most of the major issues.

If Hillary wins the nomination, and especially if she is elected POTUS, I believe all women will benefit. Even if her policies end up being middle of the road, finally having a woman in the Oval Office should go a long way towards helping women in other industries succeed as leaders–esp. if she is a good President, which I truly believe she will be.

As for why more women do not support her, I agree with Clinton’s record with regard to Iraq, but I also think many women–even relatively liberal ones–might harbor some less than feminist thoughts about a woman’s ability to lead our nation.

]]> By: MplsGal http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1994 MplsGal Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:05:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1994 I'm delurking on this one b/c I think responses so far have been so interesting! I won't be voting for a Democrat, but as a woman, I am absolutely intrigued by Hillary and all that surrounds her. Like others have said, in addition to the political baggage that comes from having a longer, more prominant career, I simply have a hard time feeling that anything she says is truly genuine. Yes, every single candidate on the planet tests their messages - so she's not alone there. But, like LawyerMama, I think Hillary is just not very good at making her statements and positions sound like they are truly coming from her gut/heart. I also agree w/the poster who wondered whether there is anything the Clinton camp can really do about this problem? Probably not. Over-orchestrated efforts to try to "soften" her will just appear even more disengenuous than what they are dealing with now, I think.<br/><br/>What simply KILLS me in all of this, is that of the over 300 million people we having living in the US, we are unable to come up with a representative number of women to join their male counter parts in both parties in the race for the White House. Really? Just the one woman, eh? UGH. <br/><br/>Thanks for letting me lurk and delurk - love your blog! I’m delurking on this one b/c I think responses so far have been so interesting! I won’t be voting for a Democrat, but as a woman, I am absolutely intrigued by Hillary and all that surrounds her. Like others have said, in addition to the political baggage that comes from having a longer, more prominant career, I simply have a hard time feeling that anything she says is truly genuine. Yes, every single candidate on the planet tests their messages – so she’s not alone there. But, like LawyerMama, I think Hillary is just not very good at making her statements and positions sound like they are truly coming from her gut/heart. I also agree w/the poster who wondered whether there is anything the Clinton camp can really do about this problem? Probably not. Over-orchestrated efforts to try to “soften” her will just appear even more disengenuous than what they are dealing with now, I think.

What simply KILLS me in all of this, is that of the over 300 million people we having living in the US, we are unable to come up with a representative number of women to join their male counter parts in both parties in the race for the White House. Really? Just the one woman, eh? UGH.

Thanks for letting me lurk and delurk – love your blog!

]]> By: Lawyer Mama http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1993 Lawyer Mama Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:30:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1993 For me, it's the war thing. While I think she's incredibly intelligent and wonderfully qualified for the job (unlike the current occupant), I think she has a problem speaking candidly and genuinely about the issues at times. I feel like everything's gone through the political spin machine and we're getting carefully rehearsed soundbites. ALthough, perhaps I'm not being fair to her b/c pretty much any presidential candidate is doing the same thing. Some are just better at acting genuine. <br/><br/>People seem to either love her or hate her. Electability is an issue, yes, but I'll still vote for her if she gets the nomination. In fact, I'll even open up my wallet and put my money where my mouth is. For me, it’s the war thing. While I think she’s incredibly intelligent and wonderfully qualified for the job (unlike the current occupant), I think she has a problem speaking candidly and genuinely about the issues at times. I feel like everything’s gone through the political spin machine and we’re getting carefully rehearsed soundbites. ALthough, perhaps I’m not being fair to her b/c pretty much any presidential candidate is doing the same thing. Some are just better at acting genuine.

People seem to either love her or hate her. Electability is an issue, yes, but I’ll still vote for her if she gets the nomination. In fact, I’ll even open up my wallet and put my money where my mouth is.

]]> By: Kelly http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1992 Kelly Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1992 I read something similar to your poll a while back, and I couldn't figure it out either.<br/><br/>Clinton's camp: I don't know if they're ignoring it or not. But I do wonder if there is anything they can even do about it. People in my area made up their minds about her before she was even elected Senator. Sad, but true. I read something similar to your poll a while back, and I couldn’t figure it out either.

Clinton’s camp: I don’t know if they’re ignoring it or not. But I do wonder if there is anything they can even do about it. People in my area made up their minds about her before she was even elected Senator. Sad, but true.

]]> By: PunditMom http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1991 PunditMom Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:38:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1991 It's so interesting to hear everyone's comments about Hillary. I hear loads of people saying similar things -- is the Hillary campaign not hearing the same or are they just ignoring it? It’s so interesting to hear everyone’s comments about Hillary. I hear loads of people saying similar things — is the Hillary campaign not hearing the same or are they just ignoring it?

]]> By: Sunshine http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1990 Sunshine Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:56:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1990 The most common theme I hear among Democrats (for full disclosure, I'm a Libertarian) when we talk about the candidates is "electability" (sp?). Most of them, Hillary-supporters or not, don't feel she's electable. And they almost worry about getting a candidate who will win over one that necessarily is in step with their own views.<br/>At this time, far more of my friends are Obama supporters.<br/>My own analysis is that Obama has had a shorter window than Hillary to piss people off. Hillary has a longer list of political baggage she must overcome to get the votes of people with long memories, whether that is fair or not.<br/>Also, at the end of the day, there are still going to be some sexist Dems out there who won't vote for a woman.<br/>I agree with Gunfighter, I think she comes off as an opportunist. I would vote for Obama before Hillary any day of the week. The most common theme I hear among Democrats (for full disclosure, I’m a Libertarian) when we talk about the candidates is “electability” (sp?). Most of them, Hillary-supporters or not, don’t feel she’s electable. And they almost worry about getting a candidate who will win over one that necessarily is in step with their own views.
At this time, far more of my friends are Obama supporters.
My own analysis is that Obama has had a shorter window than Hillary to piss people off. Hillary has a longer list of political baggage she must overcome to get the votes of people with long memories, whether that is fair or not.
Also, at the end of the day, there are still going to be some sexist Dems out there who won’t vote for a woman.
I agree with Gunfighter, I think she comes off as an opportunist. I would vote for Obama before Hillary any day of the week.

]]> By: Gunfighter http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1989 Gunfighter Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:24:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1989 I think that ma great many people... and I am talking about Democrats, here, feel that Senaor Clinton is insincere. For my part, I see her as an opportunist who can't be trusted to do the right thing when that thing might be unpopular. I think that ma great many people… and I am talking about Democrats, here, feel that Senaor Clinton is insincere. For my part, I see her as an opportunist who can’t be trusted to do the right thing when that thing might be unpopular.

]]> By: Catherine Morgan http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1987 Catherine Morgan Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:57:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1987 Hi...I'm asking a few people to "guest" post on my blogs while I'm at the BlogHer Conference (I'll be posting them starting July 24th). I was hoping you might consider doing a post for my political blog...<br/><br/>http://informedvoters.wordpress.com/<br/><br/>You would get full credit and I would link back to you. The only requirement is that you send it to me before July 23rd. If you think you would be interested just drop me an email...<br/><br/>catherinesblog at yahoo dot com<br/><br/>Thanks,<br/>Catherine Morgan Hi…I’m asking a few people to “guest” post on my blogs while I’m at the BlogHer Conference (I’ll be posting them starting July 24th). I was hoping you might consider doing a post for my political blog…

http://informedvoters.wordpress.com/

You would get full credit and I would link back to you. The only requirement is that you send it to me before July 23rd. If you think you would be interested just drop me an email…

catherinesblog at yahoo dot com

Thanks,
Catherine Morgan

]]> By: FENICLE http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1986 FENICLE Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:46:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1986 I am so UNDECIDED right now. I'm having a very hard time liking anyone. I know no candidate will ever be perfect...but with all that has been going on in this world I'm unsure of what my main focus should be. Thank goodness I've got a while yet to decide on a final one. I am so UNDECIDED right now. I’m having a very hard time liking anyone. I know no candidate will ever be perfect…but with all that has been going on in this world I’m unsure of what my main focus should be. Thank goodness I’ve got a while yet to decide on a final one.

]]> By: David http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps/comment-page-1#comment-1985 David Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:11:00 +0000 http://www.punditmom.com/2007/07/are-we-hillarys-peeps#comment-1985 I don't know for certain what it is about Senator Clinton that people don't like. I sure as heck can't speak to why some women might not like her. <br/><br/>I can say this: there are only a handful of people on earth for which cottage industries have sprung up with the sole purpose of destroying that person's reputation. Senator Clinton has been the target of some of the most vicious and vitriolic personal attacks in the history of American politics. And she's still standing.<br/><br/>I'm undecided among the dems right now. But I definitely respect Senator Clinton for her personal fortitude in the face of some pretty nasty stuff. <br/><br/>And no, I'm not a plant for the Clinton campaign. I don’t know for certain what it is about Senator Clinton that people don’t like. I sure as heck can’t speak to why some women might not like her.

I can say this: there are only a handful of people on earth for which cottage industries have sprung up with the sole purpose of destroying that person’s reputation. Senator Clinton has been the target of some of the most vicious and vitriolic personal attacks in the history of American politics. And she’s still standing.

I’m undecided among the dems right now. But I definitely respect Senator Clinton for her personal fortitude in the face of some pretty nasty stuff.

And no, I’m not a plant for the Clinton campaign.

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