Comments on: Hillary Clinton — Damned if She Does and Damned if She Doesn’t

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:19:00 +0000

Spare me Klobuchar, who said she was moved to endorse Obama by her 12-yr. old daughter. Wonder what the Senator told the daughter about Obama giving the finger to Clinton on a youtube posted by his own campaign.
There isn’t any way in the world I could continue being a Democrat if this vulgar cheesy wannabe is the candidate. So he’s cute, he’s charismatic (read sexy), he reads a teleprompter well – vote him Miss Congeniality and let’s move forward.

By: modmom

modmom — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:39:00 +0000

yay!

By: Daisy

Daisy — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:00 +0000

“…two incredible candidates…” Yes. Exactly. And it’s sad that having two incredible candidates is becoming a negative rather than a positive.

By: Ivy Brown

Ivy Brown — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:26:00 +0000

You know, I actually heard the damned if they do, damned if they don’t argument a few months ago regarding some of the black leaders who backed Hillary. The people I interviewed said politicians like John Lewis backed Clinton — whom many of them considered an establishment candidate — because they were afraid of a conflict or loss by backing Obama, the first viable black candidate. This sentiment came out just before South Carolina and Super Tuesday, when Obama was, by and large, an underdog.

So yes, I agree with you that the Democratic party can’t stand conflict. And yes, I think it’s a shame that a viable female candidate is being told to step out. And still, even as a woman, I’m with MammaLoves…I’m just not into how angry she sounds as she campaigns. I don’t believe that’s what we need right now.

By: Grim Reality Girl

Grim Reality Girl — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:22:00 +0000

Full disclosure: I don't like Hilary Clinton and will not vote for her even if my only other choice is McCain (I'm not a big fan).

I also don't think she should get out of the race at this point. I think Momma is right -- we would all be happier if she were less angry. Maybe she'd be less damned if she were less angry?

I'm happy a female candidate has come so far. I just wish it were a different woman. I wish I could support her; I wish I could believe in her.

Yes, I'm supporting Obama. He is the candidate I support and believe in. I hope he wins. It would be fine with me if they take it all the way to convention. A brokered convention could be good for the U.S.A. Imagine how this could energize the youth vote! (Though I am still not a fan of super delegates). I will not defend Rev. Wright -- but it is interesting when you listen to that entire sermon. Taking in entirety & context softens the blow of the words. I agree people should not preach hate. I also would hate to be judged by everything my priests have ever said. Props go to Huckabee for standing up on this topic. Who would have thought?

Wouldn't it be amazing if the Democratic candidates (and their operatives) could take the high road? Wouldn't it be great to see integrity in politics? I know I'm idealistic, but isn't that what Pelosi should be pushing for? The longer they are on the front page the better for the party -- as long as they don't slaughter each other. Can they resist dirty politics? Not so far.

I want to believe....

By: impromptublogger

impromptublogger — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:53:00 +0000

I do think that she has a right to run as long as she feels she can. However, people were pressuring Mike Huckabee to drop out too so I don’t think it’s just a matter of misogyny. People get so hung up on “party unity” that they fail to see how good it is to have the two candidates to keep them both more honest! lol

By: Mamma

Mamma — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:55:00 +0000

She is in an awful position. Her numbers are too strong for her to leave. Frankly, the longer this goes on, the more likely I would be to support her. I just wish she wouldn’t come across as so angry. Our country doesn’t need bitterness right now. We need diplomacy.

By: Nancy

Nancy — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:31:00 +0000

Here in MN, Sen. Amy Klobuchar endorsed Obama today (I was bummed about that), citing his impressive showing in the MN caucuses, and his ability to excite the younger generation and draw independents.

Unlike Leahy, however, she encouraged Sen. Clinton to remain in the race, and says she believes this close battle between the two is good for the party. I'm paraphrasing here, but she believes that both are excellent candidates, have good hearts and minds, and, when the time comes, will come together and work it out.

Klobuchar in 2016!

By: Lizzy17

Lizzy17 — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:48:00 +0000

In the spirit of full disclosure, I’ll admit that I am not a Clinton fan. If she becomes the Democratic nominee, I will vote for her, but I would prefer Obama. That said, at some point the Democratic party has to put up an adequate fight against Republicans, and having two candidates involved in such a nasty campaign this late can only hurt us in the general election. As far as my understanding of the delegate math goes, Clinton can really only win if she gains the support of most of the superdelegates – which is of course completely legitimate. However, as with so much in American politics, it will not appear so; she will be accused of ‘stealing’ the election, and even if unmerited, surely Kerry taught us that allegations can have a damning effect even if they are untrue. Given then how difficult it would be for Clinton to win, and that if she did, it would be quite an uphill battle given the circumstances that she win, I see nothing wrong with hoping she will withdraw. Not because of her gender, or her qualifications, or her ability to be commander in chief, but because more than I care about Obama or Clinton, I want a Democrat in the White House. Were the situation reversed, I would make the same argument – it might be better for feminism if Clinton stays in, but the whole country will be worse off if McCain wins. I wish she would step down simply because if she and Obama continue at each other’s throats until August, we will have another four to eight years of Republican rule.

By: PunditMom

PunditMom — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:41:00 +0000

Maria, It’s interesting you should say that. So many thought we would be done by Super Tuesday. Many, like my parents in Pennsylvania, are thrilled that for once in a long time, their votes will actually matter. In recent elections, the outcome has been decided by the time their primary rolled around.

Karoli, I don’t think the conversation about Rev. Wright is an unfair one. If Obama has associated himself so closely with someone who holds such extreme views, I think that speaks volumes about Obama and what he would be like as President.