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	<title>Comments on: Mothers of Intention &#8212; Has Dooce Become the Modern Day June Cleaver?</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize. I see the confusion;  in that sentence I was using the &quot;generic you&quot;, not &quot;you Punditmom&quot;.  I was not or assuming or accusing you of shirking your duties at work, although I see now how it appeared that way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But your very reaction is exemplary of a high-value employee - &quot;I resent even the implication that I would neglect work for convenience in family matters.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It isn&#039;t stereotyping to hold that standard, although I can see why you&#039;d feel it was stereotyping if I had assumed &lt;i&gt;you in particular&lt;/i&gt; had ignored your work responsibilities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again, please accept my apologies for my poor syntax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize. I see the confusion;  in that sentence I was using the &#8220;generic you&#8221;, not &#8220;you Punditmom&#8221;.  I was not or assuming or accusing you of shirking your duties at work, although I see now how it appeared that way.</p>
<p>But your very reaction is exemplary of a high-value employee &#8211; &#8220;I resent even the implication that I would neglect work for convenience in family matters.&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t stereotyping to hold that standard, although I can see why you&#8217;d feel it was stereotyping if I had assumed <i>you in particular</i> had ignored your work responsibilities.</p>
<p>Again, please accept my apologies for my poor syntax.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment: &quot;[You&#039;re] free to be as successful in business as you wish, right up to the point at which you reschedule a meeting because you want to be at a soccer game or call in sick because your little one is ill.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your comment: &quot;Speaking directly to Matt - I never rescheduled a meeting or called in sick due to a family issue. That&#039;s a stereotype.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My response: What I said is in no way stereotyping. If I told my boss that I couldn&#039;t make it today because Junior had a soccer game, I would be viewed as &lt;i&gt;less reliable&lt;/i&gt;.  No one gets high-fives at work [from me] for being a good daddy or mommy or volunteer; you get high fives fat work or being dependable &lt;b&gt;at work&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I too see a double-standard, but I suppose not the same one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment: &#8220;[You're] free to be as successful in business as you wish, right up to the point at which you reschedule a meeting because you want to be at a soccer game or call in sick because your little one is ill.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your comment: &#8220;Speaking directly to Matt &#8211; I never rescheduled a meeting or called in sick due to a family issue. That&#8217;s a stereotype.&#8221;</p>
<p>My response: What I said is in no way stereotyping. If I told my boss that I couldn&#8217;t make it today because Junior had a soccer game, I would be viewed as <i>less reliable</i>.  No one gets high-fives at work [from me] for being a good daddy or mommy or volunteer; you get high fives fat work or being dependable <b>at work</b>.</p>
<p>I too see a double-standard, but I suppose not the same one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minda-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You seriously believe people have always been this discoverable?  There has never been a mechanism for the world to read your diary and view photos of your life&#039;s most private moments previous to the web.  I&#039;m afraid your statement makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minda-</p>
<p>You seriously believe people have always been this discoverable?  There has never been a mechanism for the world to read your diary and view photos of your life&#8217;s most private moments previous to the web.  I&#8217;m afraid your statement makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mindy, I disagree with you after years of doing internet research that someone could &quot;figure out it was you&quot; just by  your writing style.  Do you know who I am by what I am saying?  I also disagree that kids have the capacity to offer consent until they&#039;re in their late teens.  Even then the human brain is still forming around advanced understanding.  What may seem harmless now may not be harmless when a potential school, employer, client, enemy, finds your blogs.  It&#039;s convenient to say that its no problem, because you don&#039;t have any idea what problems in fact you may be causing.  Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mindy, I disagree with you after years of doing internet research that someone could &#8220;figure out it was you&#8221; just by  your writing style.  Do you know who I am by what I am saying?  I also disagree that kids have the capacity to offer consent until they&#8217;re in their late teens.  Even then the human brain is still forming around advanced understanding.  What may seem harmless now may not be harmless when a potential school, employer, client, enemy, finds your blogs.  It&#8217;s convenient to say that its no problem, because you don&#8217;t have any idea what problems in fact you may be causing.  Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: PunditMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>PunditMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mindy, I think it&#039;s two different things to find a name, brand or identity to promote ideas vs. others trying to label us in order to pigeonhole us into something they can dismiss.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t want to take away from Susan&#039;s wonderful post by discussing that more here, but why is it wrong for us, as women, to take possession of the unique perspective our parenting experiences give us?  I see that as totally different from the MSM and corporate America using mothers to keep us in a position they don&#039;t find threatening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mindy, I think it&#8217;s two different things to find a name, brand or identity to promote ideas vs. others trying to label us in order to pigeonhole us into something they can dismiss.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to take away from Susan&#8217;s wonderful post by discussing that more here, but why is it wrong for us, as women, to take possession of the unique perspective our parenting experiences give us?  I see that as totally different from the MSM and corporate America using mothers to keep us in a position they don&#8217;t find threatening.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan - thanks for checking the stories on TOWS site, you might want to mention that after you say you didn&#039;t watch it. The articles were very thorough and almost as good as being there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anon - there really is no such thing as anonymity anymore. I could write under a pseudonym but anyone with two adjacent brain cells and an internet connection could find out who I am. Same for the kids. And my kids are fully aware and happy with the stories, and know that thousands of people read them. The information they are not allowed to give out is along the lines of phone number, credit card numbers, where they go to school and where they will be - commonsense things you wouldn&#039;t give to a person on the street. It&#039;s all about education in a new medium. People have been discoverable for ages - it&#039;s just a new angle on an old issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan &#8211; thanks for checking the stories on TOWS site, you might want to mention that after you say you didn&#8217;t watch it. The articles were very thorough and almost as good as being there.</p>
<p>Anon &#8211; there really is no such thing as anonymity anymore. I could write under a pseudonym but anyone with two adjacent brain cells and an internet connection could find out who I am. Same for the kids. And my kids are fully aware and happy with the stories, and know that thousands of people read them. The information they are not allowed to give out is along the lines of phone number, credit card numbers, where they go to school and where they will be &#8211; commonsense things you wouldn&#8217;t give to a person on the street. It&#8217;s all about education in a new medium. People have been discoverable for ages &#8211; it&#8217;s just a new angle on an old issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment is related but perhaps off topic.  How is it that so many of these mommy bloggers who talk about their kids don&#039;t realize the double standard where they&#039;d never let their own kids reveal such personal information/images but they feel free to go ahead and expose their kids to this permanent record...often using their kids first names?  What ever happened to internet safety?  It seems to have gone out the window when women realized they can (perhaps) make a career out of their childrens lives (and obviously without their kids consent).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is related but perhaps off topic.  How is it that so many of these mommy bloggers who talk about their kids don&#8217;t realize the double standard where they&#8217;d never let their own kids reveal such personal information/images but they feel free to go ahead and expose their kids to this permanent record&#8230;often using their kids first names?  What ever happened to internet safety?  It seems to have gone out the window when women realized they can (perhaps) make a career out of their childrens lives (and obviously without their kids consent).</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Getgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Getgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mindy, I didn&#039;t watch the Oprah segment but I did spend a fair amount of time on her site and watched some of the clips. My comments on the new stereotype aren&#039;t based solely on the Oprah segment; I&#039;ve been watching this trend for a while now. Oprah was just the latest example. The post had others. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As to the comment about pundit and mom, that was Joanne&#039;s, not mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mindy, I didn&#8217;t watch the Oprah segment but I did spend a fair amount of time on her site and watched some of the clips. My comments on the new stereotype aren&#8217;t based solely on the Oprah segment; I&#8217;ve been watching this trend for a while now. Oprah was just the latest example. The post had others. </p>
<p>As to the comment about pundit and mom, that was Joanne&#8217;s, not mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, thank you, Rita.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, Susan, I&#039;m concerned that you didn&#039;t even watch the Oprah segment. It&#039;s astonishing that you would assume it was more of the same. It wasn&#039;t. We are making strides and bringing more visibility to our blended roles and gaining respect for how we do it, but you aren&#039;t even watching the shows/reading the press that would support your point! Your prejudice is allowing you to make the same mistakes you fear other media are making, and compounding it by projecting your fears outward without taking in new information.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This comment grabbed me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;I can&#039;t be a pundit AND a mom? That&#039;s the whole point of the blog name -- not just a mom and don&#039;t define me by it! Am I right ladies?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aren&#039;t you sort of stepping all over your own point?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The use of a label is not in itself damaging. I find that telling people that I write a mommy blog is the most concise way of describing what I do. AND I stay home with the kids! Only because I am unemployed, but hey, how many of their friends can say they are dropped off at school and greeted at the cub in the afternoon by a mom who then goes home and thinks about MOTHERING? It&#039;s a happy tragedy that I&#039;m able to do that. Tragic because we&#039;re beyond broke, but happy because they are not away from home and their mother ten hours a day in a daycare.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That used to be me -  Twelve years as a foundation executive! Three maternity leaves in four years! Childless boss! Run out of town!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is anyone upset at being called a tech blogger? Or social media blogger? Are we being too sensitive? I think both genders have to choose where the focus will be, because you can&#039;t do both to the hilt. That is why we have partnerships. And why I wish I had one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thank you, Rita.</p>
<p>Second, Susan, I&#8217;m concerned that you didn&#8217;t even watch the Oprah segment. It&#8217;s astonishing that you would assume it was more of the same. It wasn&#8217;t. We are making strides and bringing more visibility to our blended roles and gaining respect for how we do it, but you aren&#8217;t even watching the shows/reading the press that would support your point! Your prejudice is allowing you to make the same mistakes you fear other media are making, and compounding it by projecting your fears outward without taking in new information.</p>
<p>This comment grabbed me:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I can&#8217;t be a pundit AND a mom? That&#8217;s the whole point of the blog name &#8212; not just a mom and don&#8217;t define me by it! Am I right ladies?</i>&#8220;</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t you sort of stepping all over your own point?</p>
<p>The use of a label is not in itself damaging. I find that telling people that I write a mommy blog is the most concise way of describing what I do. AND I stay home with the kids! Only because I am unemployed, but hey, how many of their friends can say they are dropped off at school and greeted at the cub in the afternoon by a mom who then goes home and thinks about MOTHERING? It&#8217;s a happy tragedy that I&#8217;m able to do that. Tragic because we&#8217;re beyond broke, but happy because they are not away from home and their mother ten hours a day in a daycare.</p>
<p>That used to be me &#8211;  Twelve years as a foundation executive! Three maternity leaves in four years! Childless boss! Run out of town!</p>
<p>Is anyone upset at being called a tech blogger? Or social media blogger? Are we being too sensitive? I think both genders have to choose where the focus will be, because you can&#8217;t do both to the hilt. That is why we have partnerships. And why I wish I had one.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really love this post. You&#039;re right about women being defined on the web by &quot;motherhood.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s almost like women don&#039;t exist at all unless they are framed as something -- moms, career gals who balk at mother, angry feminists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Men are allowed to be, well, just men.  They aren&#039;t defined by mommyhood or working or anything. They are just them. Why can&#039;t women be like that, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love this post. You&#8217;re right about women being defined on the web by &#8220;motherhood.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like women don&#8217;t exist at all unless they are framed as something &#8212; moms, career gals who balk at mother, angry feminists.</p>
<p>Men are allowed to be, well, just men.  They aren&#8217;t defined by mommyhood or working or anything. They are just them. Why can&#8217;t women be like that, too?</p>
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