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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.punditmom.com/2010/03/nothing-is-going-to-change-until-were-in-the-room/comment-page-1#comment-14969</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonya,

I understand your emotional battle.  I empathize with it.  But nothing you said has to do with the healthcare debate.  Central planning is a failed strategy as I already explained.  For some reason, you did not respond to that section of my response.

You claim you know what you need to carry and raise a child.  Obviously, I believe you.  So why would you not want to control your own health care so you can make sure you get exactly what you need?  Why would you want to use the government and a failed central planning strategy to try and provide what you need to yourself and other women across the country?

The only person who can always make sure they find what they need is the individual.  When the government tries to get involved, people get left out.  There are 300 million people in the United States.  Each of those people has massively different individual needs.  A handful of Washington intellectuals, regardless of how many women represent the handful, can&#039;t possibly make sure that each person gets what they need efficiently.

The most efficient method of getting people what they need is the free market.  The reason health care is very difficult for some people to adequately acquire and keep is due to government involvement in the marketplace and the consequences of that involvement.  The more government you add, the worse it gets.

You know exactly what you need and we all want you to have what you need.  Using the government to blanket females with supposedly needed services instead of seeing millions of individuals with individual needs is going to ensure that your quest to fulfill said needs is an indefinite one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonya,</p>
<p>I understand your emotional battle.  I empathize with it.  But nothing you said has to do with the healthcare debate.  Central planning is a failed strategy as I already explained.  For some reason, you did not respond to that section of my response.</p>
<p>You claim you know what you need to carry and raise a child.  Obviously, I believe you.  So why would you not want to control your own health care so you can make sure you get exactly what you need?  Why would you want to use the government and a failed central planning strategy to try and provide what you need to yourself and other women across the country?</p>
<p>The only person who can always make sure they find what they need is the individual.  When the government tries to get involved, people get left out.  There are 300 million people in the United States.  Each of those people has massively different individual needs.  A handful of Washington intellectuals, regardless of how many women represent the handful, can&#8217;t possibly make sure that each person gets what they need efficiently.</p>
<p>The most efficient method of getting people what they need is the free market.  The reason health care is very difficult for some people to adequately acquire and keep is due to government involvement in the marketplace and the consequences of that involvement.  The more government you add, the worse it gets.</p>
<p>You know exactly what you need and we all want you to have what you need.  Using the government to blanket females with supposedly needed services instead of seeing millions of individuals with individual needs is going to ensure that your quest to fulfill said needs is an indefinite one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.punditmom.com/2010/03/nothing-is-going-to-change-until-were-in-the-room/comment-page-1#comment-14967</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So because your creator gave you a responsibility, I have to pay for it?...  Having a kid is a choice.  If you want health care for that, pay for it, YOURSELF.  I&#039;m there for you the 9 months and however long until we die old.  I&#039;ll support you financially (by choice) if I want, why should I be FORCED to pay for your health insurance?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So because your creator gave you a responsibility, I have to pay for it?&#8230;  Having a kid is a choice.  If you want health care for that, pay for it, YOURSELF.  I&#8217;m there for you the 9 months and however long until we die old.  I&#8217;ll support you financially (by choice) if I want, why should I be FORCED to pay for your health insurance?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tonya</title>
		<link>http://www.punditmom.com/2010/03/nothing-is-going-to-change-until-were-in-the-room/comment-page-1#comment-14939</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my. I NEVER suggested that anyone put me or any other woman on a pedestal. What I did suggest, however, was that, while men have a role in creating and raising the children, they do NOT carry the child and give birth to it. And, by the way, giving birth to a child is no easy feat. Some require MAJOR surgery, which in turn requires healing time. And don&#039;t get me started on breastfeeding.
So, to explain more clearly, America needs proper health care, both before and after childbirth. NOT because I think women should be pampered but because a HEALTHY infant requires it. And the fact that you 2 guys believe that I am advocating for some sort of spa treatment just bolsters PunditMom&#039;s point that women MUST be more involved because quite frankly, you will never know what it is like to carry and give birth to a child much less be the only source of their nutrition for, at least, a good 6 months of their life. The day men can give birth will be the day I will hand over my health care to them but today this is not the case! So, please stick to topics that you can fully understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my. I NEVER suggested that anyone put me or any other woman on a pedestal. What I did suggest, however, was that, while men have a role in creating and raising the children, they do NOT carry the child and give birth to it. And, by the way, giving birth to a child is no easy feat. Some require MAJOR surgery, which in turn requires healing time. And don&#8217;t get me started on breastfeeding.<br />
So, to explain more clearly, America needs proper health care, both before and after childbirth. NOT because I think women should be pampered but because a HEALTHY infant requires it. And the fact that you 2 guys believe that I am advocating for some sort of spa treatment just bolsters PunditMom&#8217;s point that women MUST be more involved because quite frankly, you will never know what it is like to carry and give birth to a child much less be the only source of their nutrition for, at least, a good 6 months of their life. The day men can give birth will be the day I will hand over my health care to them but today this is not the case! So, please stick to topics that you can fully understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crickets...

I guess you guys are out of talking points.  The truth is inconvenient isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crickets&#8230;</p>
<p>I guess you guys are out of talking points.  The truth is inconvenient isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: PunditMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>PunditMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t deleted any comments.  If a comment was made by anyone in this thread and it hasn&#039;t appeared, I can only assume some glitch.  No need to get started on any conspiracy theories!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t deleted any comments.  If a comment was made by anyone in this thread and it hasn&#8217;t appeared, I can only assume some glitch.  No need to get started on any conspiracy theories!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was my last comment deleted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was my last comment deleted?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.punditmom.com/2010/03/nothing-is-going-to-change-until-were-in-the-room/comment-page-1#comment-14837</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonya:

Arguing false premises isn&#039;t going to get us anywhere.  Your opening statement is vehemently false.

No, maternity leave and women&#039;s health issues shouldn&#039;t be discussed by our federal government.  There are far too many problems with both sexes to be fixed by central planning.  If the government fixes one problem for one group, it&#039;ll just create more problems for another.  Central planning is a historically failed intellectual strategy that was ditched even by despotic governments.  For you to advocate central health care planning shows exactly how illogical and irrational your viewpoint is.

Additionally, your feminism blinds your reality.  While women give birth to the future of our generation, men plant the seed that gives them that power.  And the product is a mix of both.  For you to advocate that women should come first when it&#039;s the man that initiates your example is passionately misguided.  What happened to equality?  Your reverse sexism is just as disgusting as the sexism you initially chose to fight against.  You&#039;ve become what you initially opposed.  I feel sad for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonya:</p>
<p>Arguing false premises isn&#8217;t going to get us anywhere.  Your opening statement is vehemently false.</p>
<p>No, maternity leave and women&#8217;s health issues shouldn&#8217;t be discussed by our federal government.  There are far too many problems with both sexes to be fixed by central planning.  If the government fixes one problem for one group, it&#8217;ll just create more problems for another.  Central planning is a historically failed intellectual strategy that was ditched even by despotic governments.  For you to advocate central health care planning shows exactly how illogical and irrational your viewpoint is.</p>
<p>Additionally, your feminism blinds your reality.  While women give birth to the future of our generation, men plant the seed that gives them that power.  And the product is a mix of both.  For you to advocate that women should come first when it&#8217;s the man that initiates your example is passionately misguided.  What happened to equality?  Your reverse sexism is just as disgusting as the sexism you initially chose to fight against.  You&#8217;ve become what you initially opposed.  I feel sad for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tonya

It takes both genders to create babies.  There are stay at home dads.

I teach Taekwondo to all ages (mainly 3-12yos).  I am in constant contact with parents (Dads as well as moms) about their kid&#039;s development.  We have belt levels and if you have a bad attitude or are lacking in a part of your life, you don&#039;t test for next belt.

I have had moms come to me and ask for help with their child; behavior, motor skills, you name it.

Your argument for Woman needing to be pampered and put on a pedestal is garbage.     Your logic is the same as every other statist (liberal) out there.  You take a random fact and associate welfare (your agenda) to it.  So because the baby comes out of you, I owe you something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tonya</p>
<p>It takes both genders to create babies.  There are stay at home dads.</p>
<p>I teach Taekwondo to all ages (mainly 3-12yos).  I am in constant contact with parents (Dads as well as moms) about their kid&#8217;s development.  We have belt levels and if you have a bad attitude or are lacking in a part of your life, you don&#8217;t test for next belt.</p>
<p>I have had moms come to me and ask for help with their child; behavior, motor skills, you name it.</p>
<p>Your argument for Woman needing to be pampered and put on a pedestal is garbage.     Your logic is the same as every other statist (liberal) out there.  You take a random fact and associate welfare (your agenda) to it.  So because the baby comes out of you, I owe you something?</p>
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		<title>By: Tonya</title>
		<link>http://www.punditmom.com/2010/03/nothing-is-going-to-change-until-were-in-the-room/comment-page-1#comment-14830</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin: We had 8 years of deregulation, low corporate income tax rates and the policies that benefited only the wealthy, where id this get us?
I find it very interesting that you do not believe maternity leave and women&#039;s health issues should be a major point of discussion and that women should be much much more represented. If I have my anatomy correct 

I do believe it is WOMEN who give birth to the FUTURE of our nation therefore their rights are first and FUNDAMENTAL.
In order for America to produce continual healthy, intelligent generations we MUST focus on those who carry that burden: WOMEN.

I do applaud Kevin&#039;s commentary, however, because he just makes me realize that women must really ban together (regardless of political affiliation or religious views) so that we can have the voice we deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: We had 8 years of deregulation, low corporate income tax rates and the policies that benefited only the wealthy, where id this get us?<br />
I find it very interesting that you do not believe maternity leave and women&#8217;s health issues should be a major point of discussion and that women should be much much more represented. If I have my anatomy correct </p>
<p>I do believe it is WOMEN who give birth to the FUTURE of our nation therefore their rights are first and FUNDAMENTAL.<br />
In order for America to produce continual healthy, intelligent generations we MUST focus on those who carry that burden: WOMEN.</p>
<p>I do applaud Kevin&#8217;s commentary, however, because he just makes me realize that women must really ban together (regardless of political affiliation or religious views) so that we can have the voice we deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Elizabeth:

Don&#039;t you think our high corporate income tax rates and the anti-wealth policies of progressives does far more harm to the competitiveness of American businesses in foreign markets than having to pay for health care for employees?  Especially since paying for health care for employees is optional?  Surely you can see where Slaughter&#039;s stance on the issue is missing the mark.

Equally interesting is that I assume Slaughter supports the high corporate income tax rate and the soak the rich tax policies, yet makes a contradicting argument when the opportunity to pass another progressive government takeover is presented.  It seems to me you&#039;re quoting an opportunist, not someone with values and principles who actually cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Elizabeth:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think our high corporate income tax rates and the anti-wealth policies of progressives does far more harm to the competitiveness of American businesses in foreign markets than having to pay for health care for employees?  Especially since paying for health care for employees is optional?  Surely you can see where Slaughter&#8217;s stance on the issue is missing the mark.</p>
<p>Equally interesting is that I assume Slaughter supports the high corporate income tax rate and the soak the rich tax policies, yet makes a contradicting argument when the opportunity to pass another progressive government takeover is presented.  It seems to me you&#8217;re quoting an opportunist, not someone with values and principles who actually cares.</p>
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