Hillary Clinton: Horrible for 2008, But Perfect for 2012!

Political observers are loving Hillary Clinton today as much as they hated in her 2008.  They just can’t seem to get enough of her these days. This one kvells over her amazingness as Secretary of State.  That one gushes over how she’s raising the profile of advocating for women and children around the world. And doesn’t that new hairdo look fabulous?

Where were all these Hillary Clinton lovers in 2008?  Oh, wait, they were around, but they were the Hillary Clinton haters back then.  If you haven’t noticed, in the weeks since the whole debt ceiling ‘our fighting toddlers get along better than Washington politicians’ debacle, media stories have been popping up wondering whether things would be different in America today if Hillary had won in 2008.

Did Democrats make a mistake by selecting Barack Obama as their candidate?  Did we go for the flash instead of the substance?  If “President Hillary” were in office, would things be different with the economy?

Some commentators still believe there’s a chance that the Secretary of State is pondering one more run for the White House even though she’s said, oh, about, a million times that she has no interest in another Presidential campaign. Maybe the American people can send a love letter?

The fantasy of  ‘she who could have been our first woman president’ is too GOOD to let go of.   It’s clearly been a trending hot topic — except when the talking heads want to criticize her for supposedly going all emotional when Osama bin Laden was killed, implying that maybe she would have been too weak to be Commander-in-Chief.

Even former Vice President Dick Cheney is getting in on the “I miss Hillary” conversation, but we all know that’s just part of his effort to ensure ongoing Democrat infighting to put any Republican (especially another one he can control) into the White House.  Ah — a true political love story if ever there was one.

There’s only one person in the world who has the ability to convince Hillary that a Pennsylvania Avenue address is better than the one she’s using in Chappaqua — and that’s Bill.  He’s loving his role as international statesman, but you know his arm wouldn’t have to be twisted too hard to have another chance at Washington, even if it would be as the First Dude.  So maybe I should start stocking up on the Hillary in 2012 paraphernalia.  Then we just have to sit back and wait to see what the prognosticators have to say about who her VP choice would be!  May I suggest Elizabeth Warren?

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9 Responses to “Hillary Clinton: Horrible for 2008, But Perfect for 2012!”

  1. Michael Says:

    Hillary would make a great presidential candidate but it’s questionable as to the timing. Unless something really devastating happens, democrats will put Barack back up for re-election in 2012.

    If he loses (best case for Hillary, not so great for the Dems), then we would have 4 years of Republican presidency before she could run. How much gas is in the Hillary tank?

    She’s 64 currently (I think that’s correct), so she would be approaching her 70′s. If anyone can do it, Hillary can, but no can beat father time…

  2. Erin Says:

    “Even former vice president Dick Cheney is getting in on the “I miss Hillary” conversation, but we all know that’s just part of his ongoing effort to ensure ongoing Democrat infighting to put any Republican (especially another one he can control) into the White House.”

    Guess it’s working.

    I, for one, will be supporting our President in his re-election campaign. That’s how democrats usually work when a democrat is in the highest office…they support the incumbent.

  3. Lisse Says:

    I can’t tell you how much this line of thinking annoys me. Give it a week or so and it will be over, but this is a symptom of a much larger problem – not so much with the President as with the Democratic Party – a blistering pattern of self-sabotage and failure to attack when cornered.

    Hillary is my hero. I would have loved to have seen her in the Oval Office, but “we” chose someone else and we should be doing everything in our power to support him. We’re not.

    Bill did as well as he did because he reinvented the game. He mastered that 3rd way that die-hard liberals hated, but worked pretty well for everyone involved. This time, the GOP knows the damage that Democratic centrism can do to them and they are determined not to give an inch. The same thing would have happened with Hillary and then we’d be talking about how “weak” she was compared to Bill.

    Not to mention – if Hillary had won the nomination, there’s still no guarantee that she would have won the general. That is a large part of why Obama got the nomination in the first place.

    In the face of all the gerrymandering, electoral vote rigging and deliberate disenfranchisement going on around the country, if we have any hope of gaining a second term, we need to start standing our ground.

  4. Debbie Owensby Moore Says:

    My siblings and I have toyed with the idea of Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden switching places for 2012. Being VP would allow her to rest from all the traveling and would position her perfectly if she changed her mind and ran in 2012.

  5. PunditMom Says:

    Of course it’s all speculation, but do we really want a party where there is unquestioning support for any candidate?

  6. Lisse Says:

    Maybe not unquestioning, but certainly more vocal. I also think a lot of the left-handed criticism of the President is coming from people who weren’t listening to him in the first place. Perhaps what they were listening to was the right-wing noise machine declaring him the most left-wing ever.

    Sorry for the sports analogy, but it applies here: Obama is the star QB whose team is constantly letting him get sacked. Dems passed the most important piece of social legislation in decades, one that will benefit millions of Americans over time, and then they promptly ran away from it (punted, if you will). I think it was you who pointed out that the few who stood up and defended the healthcare law were the few who won re-election.

    I was wondering the other day why the Democrats don’t have a Chris Christie of our own. Then it occurred to me that we had Anthony Weiner before we drummed him out of town and ran a wet dishrag in his place.

    In politics as in football, you sometimes have players whose life off the field is not what you’d prefer – but that doesn’t stop you from rooting for the team.

    Someone once told that she couldn’t stand football because it was a war game. In that moment I understood both football and war a whole lot better. Democrats are not much of a “war” party, but we better start thinking that way or we are going to be out of the arena for a long, long time.

  7. CK Says:

    RESPONSE TO LISSE

    but “we” chose someone else and we should be doing everything in our power to support ???? EXCUSE ME…WHO IS WE? NOT ME!
    ME, MYSELF, AND I DID NOT CHOOSE HIM, SO WHEN YOU SAY WE, CAN YOU
    BE A BIT MORE SPECIFIC!!!! ME, AND OTHERS LIKE ME (THAT ” WE “) NEVER
    CHOSE HIM. REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

    AS FOR THE REST OF US , HILLARY 2012. THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR A CHANGE. KNOW THIS, IF SHE DOES NOT CHALLENGE HIM, PEOPLE WILL NOT
    FALL INTO LINE BEHIND HIM….NOT THIS TIME GUARANTEED…AND YES
    MAY THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THERE MAY. I BELIEVE THAT HILLARY, FOR THE
    GREATER GOOD, WILL RUN. WE WILL NOT FALL INTO LINE…..NO!!!

  8. Lisse Says:

    @ CK – in that case, get ready to say hello to the next Republican president and the end of a liberal voice in just about everything.

    I put the “we” in quotes for precisely the reason that Obama wasn’t everyone’s first choice (mine either). However, if we tear the party apart we scatter our resources to the point of being ineffective in the election.

    Also, as I alluded to earlier – assuming Hillary had won the nomination AND the general, I’m not sure what you think she would do differently that would cut through the Tea Party obstructionism.

    One difference might be that the right-wing reaction to her wouldn’t be one of such gut hatred, but more likely we’d just be talking about combatting mysogeny instead of racism.

  9. Shannon Drury Says:

    Joanne, I think the headline of your post says it all! As the cliche reminds us, the grass is always much, much greener on the other side of the fence….until we realize that mowing it is a pain, no matter what it looks like.

    Unquestioning support for a candidate is always a Bad Thing. Critical evaluation of Obama, Clinton, Elizabeth Warren and other progressives is not enemy collaboration.


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